F-Spot

sde hi all
bengt hi
ajmitch hi
ajmitch when is meeting?
sde hi ajmitch,
bengt As far as I understand... should be right now...
ajmitch that's what I thought :)
ajmitch has to go off to work, so won't be around much
bengt Gabaug do not seem to be here...
mercen_ I'm here but won't have much to say as I haven't had access to my devel comp in a while
sde and bmon is still missing :( hope he'll have his broadband soon
bengt is lewing around?
ajmitch he was a bit over an hour ago
lewing I am
lewing just busy working
bengt busy trying to wake up...
ajmitch will be a quiet meeting :)
lewing heh
sde ok then, and a short one also. good for me
bengt Do anyone have any news on the query patch?
sde topics for today ? bengt ?
lewing gabaug is syncing it to head again in anticipation of starting the merge
bengt Topics:
bengt Query, plugin, mission statement,
bengt Documentation team
bengt Next goal
bengt Perhaps add new tags to Bugzilla?
lewing I haven't looked at plug-in enough yet, what is the bug number for that patch again?
bengt http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345395 (from meeting page)
sde 345395
bengt Is everyone ok with above topics? Missing something? (aob at the end...)
lewing query, I just mentioned the status of
sde ok with the topics, we'll probably have a discussion about the status of some bugs at the end
sde about plug-ins, or extensions, I really need some review/comments to continue working on it
bengt so, we are waiting for gabaug to sync it to head then.
lewing sde: I'll do that this week for sure
lewing I'll also be doing some slideshow/fullscreen mode hacking
sde I'll try to finish the DialogExtension also this week, the one on bgo is not stable
sde merging slideshow and fullscreen mode ?
bengt sde: you want more comments/review on the plugin patch?
sde not really reviews or comment, but ideas and thought
lewing sde: roughly, I haven't decided on all the details yet
sde next topic, mission statement
sde bengt, you summarized the discussion in a mail ?
bengt lewing: Have you had a chance to read the "summarized" mail?
sde http://mail.gnome.org/archives/f-spot-list/2006-September/msg00196.html
bengt F-Spot helps you manage your digital photos in a powerful yet
bengt highly-intuitive way. It provides easy ways to perform common tasks
bengt like finding a certain photo or photos quickly, organizing photos via
bengt tags, doing minor touchups, and sharing photos with friends and family.
lewing I have not, I'm pretty backlogged on mail
bengt That one seems to have gotten a bit more appreciation....
bengt f-spot allows both the casual and professional photographer to manage
bengt their digital photos in an easy and intuitive manner. It provides
bengt simple ways to perform common tasks like searching for a specific photo,
bengt while supporting the complex workflows required by the professional
bengt photographer.
bengt also nice one, but I am not to comfortable with it for some reason...
bengt did anyone here have any comments or recommendations? (first one was #3, and last one was #1)
sde in all the proposed ones, the #3 (first quoted here) is my prefered one
sde what's the purpose of the 'mission statement' ? being published on MainPage or ?
bengt To be published on mainpage...
bengt Is everyone here ok with going with #3 (s/photo or photos/photos)
bengt simple enough to handle mother wishes, and powerfull enough to handle the "professional" user ?
mercen_ as you might have guessed, #3 doesn't suit me because it means f-spot is mainly about cataloguing pictures
mercen_ not that my opinion matters much of course...
cmarqu I'd s/highly-intuitive/intuitive/, otherwise it sounds too much like marketing.
cmarqu Hi BTW.
bengt changing "doing minor touchup" to "touching up photos" or something?
mercen_ I liked the pro workflows precisely for that reason
sde hi cmarqu
mercen_ but if everybody else is comfortable with #3, by all means don't mind me
sde the #1 ? ok also for me. or can we find a way in the middle
mercen_ in any case, first priority should probably be to make it into a good cataloguing app
prokoudine hi
sde hi alexandre
prokoudine could we possibly not use "intuitive" at all?
prokoudine but "discoverable" instead
mercen_ ah, I see I'm not the only one who doesn't like this word ;à)
cmarqu I too tend to like #1 more than #3.
prokoudine I have very bad feelings about this misused word
bengt want's to close this missions statement in this meeting... and if something is not good, perhaps we can modify it as we go along, or?
cmarqu In #1, maybe we could exchange "professional" by "advanced" or something like that.
mercen_ what, in your opinion, is wrong with pro?
cmarqu It promises too much, it states that we are there yet.
bengt I would like something about sharing to be added...
cmarqu Actually, I don't know the workflow of a pro, jst by reading a bit about it, but I'd be surprised if pros would be satisfied at this point.
mercen_ maybe you were right... maybe #3 was better after all
mercen_ there's no doubt they wouldn't be satisfied at this point
bengt F-Spot helps you manage your digital photos in a powerful yet
bengt highly-intuitive way. It provides easy ways to perform common tasks
bengt like finding, organizing, modifying, and sharing photos with friends and
bengt family.
bengt Is that one to simple?
sde highly intuitive discoverable ?
bengt F-Spot helps you manage your digital photos in a powerful yet
bengt discoverable way. It provides easy ways to perform common tasks
bengt like finding, organizing, modifying, and sharing photos with friends and
bengt family.
bengt Hi gabaug
gabaug hi bengt
lewing F-Spot simplifies digital photography by providing intuitive tools to help you share, touch-up, find and organize your images.
bengt you just join the small discussion about mission statement...
gabaug oh
sde hi gabaug
gabaug hey sde, lewing, all
mercen_ loves "simplifies digital photography"
sde nice one lewing, hi also like it
bengt small and simple...
mercen_ lewing rulez
bengt very true.
bengt ok, that one is closed :)
bengt is happy...
mercen_ waves a "lewing for president" sign
bengt gabaug: any news on the query patch?
mercen_ lewing: is that what is currently on the website? ;)
gabaug bengt: not sure...I a patch pretty much ready against head...lewing?
lewing mercen_: no I made it up after reading bengts message just now
lewing gabaug: I haven't read all my mail yet
bengt http://f-spot.org/Main_Page :)
lewing waits for evolution to do something
gabaug lewing: I didn't e-mail you :) telling you now, though
sde nice, we have a mission statement !!!
mercen_ good. For a split second I was afraid we were all very enthusiastic about something not new ;)
sde next topic ?
lewing gabaug: ah, excellent, then I won't feel bad for having not read it
gabaug yeah, don't, I just got it ready last night
gabaug is this an "official" meeting?
bengt The query patch is updated against head, and we should all test it.
lewing it is, but we are pretty much done with the topics
bengt official and official....
gabaug whoops, out of the loop
bengt We have two persons (Dotan and Prokoudine) who is willing to work on the documentatio.
bengt documentation as in man pages, help, wiki, concept guide or whatever...
bengt Is everyone ok with this?
prokoudine - yes
sde sure, f-spot need some more doc
sde so, what's the first plans for documentation ?
sde Updating the http://f-spot.org/User_Guide ?
bengt I would like to see a nice guide wich takes you from the camera to sharing the photo with friends, with hints and tips along the way
bengt Updating the user guide would be a good first step
sde I only have one minor issue with this...
bengt Need to look into how to get the context from the wiki into a docbook format, which we should have as an original
ionte is there any way to remove duplicates (same path)? i have lots of photos organized in folders. i had most of them tagged. then i thought i could re-import that folder after adding som enew photos, but then i got duplicates of every photo ... :(
bengt ionte: could we take that one a bit later? There is a patch for duplicate detection, but not in cvs. For the moment, you have to hack in sqlite
ionte bengt: ok, nice! i'll just wait
bengt sde: what was the issue?
sde oh, yeah. we probably need a native english part of the team...
sde not to say that Dotan or prokoudine language are bad...
sde but more to be sure to be correct
bengt good point, we can see if someone is willing to work with them. I think it should be enough in that case to review their work?
bengt I also think that they want to come up with a terminology page to clarify what everything mean
bengt http://f-spot.org/Terminology
gabaug I think "Glossary" sounds better
bengt They also have a first draft on the yelp help file for f-spot. This one should be committed to cvs
gabaug (minor point)
prokoudine bengt: yep, but with another fix I forgot
prokoudine bengt: I used citenote by mistake
bengt prokoudine: Could you come up with a bug and patch for this one?
prokoudine I can
bengt lewing: How would we do to get some more tags into BugZIlla? Thinking of Documentation, Import, and PlugIn/Extensions or whatever
bengt prokoudine: Great, waiting for that one :)
prokoudine totally offtopic, but fun: http://prokoudine.info/blog/?p=40
bengt Did you guys see the small screenshot I made? http://picasaweb.google.com/bengt.thuree/FSpot/photo#4978300804214882322
prokoudine bengt: will do in a minute
bengt About putting an import button in the toolbar... instead of the "+" in the lower left corner.
sde yeap, seen that bengt
prokoudine yep, that makes sense
bengt likes it better anyway... but I am biased... :)
sde so, can I propose a goal for the 2 upcoming weeks ?
bengt sounds good
sde I'd like to propose the 'rating' thing
sde Cosme made a first try, re-using gabaug's widget from banshee
mercen_ I'd like that
sde so, finishing this thing is possible in 2 weeks,
sde there's already a bug entry for this but I can't find the number
bengt wait
mercen_ just too bad I probably won't have a dev comp until another 2 weeks... :(
bengt http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326561
bengt Need to incorporate XMP Importing it as well... Both Urgency tag (which was widely used before XMP), and the Rating XMP tag
bengt Everyone is ok with the Rating as next Goal?
sde is ok
prokoudine bengt: I fixed the bug. what is the next step?
bengt Ok, I take that as a majority was in favor... (or forever be silent)
sde As usual, I'll try to motivate some people to look at / review / comment / develop the next goal
bengt prokoudine: I think we need to create a patch that will update Makefile etc, so the yelp file is installed when make install is done
bengt Hopefully bmon will be back next time :)
sde prokoudine, open a bug entry in b.g.o.
bengt sde: You are doing a good on the mails ;)
bengt Do anyone have any comments on the patches I listed here : http://f-spot.org/User:Bengtt
sde already commented. most of them should indeed be commited
bengt sde: Thanks
bengt lewing: Any comments?
bengt One other possibility for a goal, perhaps not this one though, would be to fix the Time Adjustment.
bengt prokoudine: http://www.skarulis.com/?p=34
sde is it done for today ? here it's time to see if my wife is already asleep...
bengt I would assume so, I get a feeling I am talking to myself here a bit :) apart from you...
bengt talk to you later sde
mercen_ am still here
mercen_ but can't comment on the patches
sde so, night all. Silent but not so bad meeting after all. We have a mission statement :)